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Exterior Cabin Projects

 


This page encompasses all of the small projects I need to complete the exterior of the cabintop, including, in no chronological or project based order:

Improving the Dorade Boxes

The Bristol dorade boxes are molded into the cabin top and are a distinctive and identifying feature of Bristols. The trouble with the dorades is there is a gap between the molded cabin top and the bottom layer of glass that sandwiches the balsa core. That gap holds water, mold, mildew, dirt and God knows what else. Additionally, the box itself is not as large as I would like. SO as a part of this refit I will improve them by,

  • Filling in the "gap between the top layer of the cabintop and the bottom layer so that no water can be trapped,

  • Covering with teak like a proper dorade should be, and

  • Strengthening the whole box so it can stand up to any seas.

I will build a third dorade at the bow to ventilate the anchor locker.

If you ever wondered what the inside of your molded dorades looked like, take a look at these shots:

I cut the top off the two dorades with a sawsall. The drains for the cowl side of the dorade some be at the aft corners, not as they are.

The bigger problem with the dorades is the "gap" that you can see in this picture. It goes about 2/4 of an inch up under the deck. The gap exists around the entire box.

I filled it by first wetting it out with unthickened epoxy, then packing some thickened epoxy into a caulking tube and running a bead all the way around.

 

When the epoxy cures I will sand the insides smooth, paint them out and begin covering the outside with teak. Stay tuned...

 

Here I am started to cut and shape the teak to enclose the dorades. It is a plethora of angles.

 

As I look at the dorades closer I discover this: The dorade boxes on the Bristol were made by molding the outer fiberglass skin in the shape of the box, eliminating the core between the out and inner skins and drilling a 3” hole in the inner skin into the cabin. The problem with this design is that the base of the box is below the outer surface of the outer skin, leaving a depression for water to collect and stand. To do it right, I will need to cut off all of the structure of the box, fill the depression with thickened epoxy and the build the box on top of the outer skin, like  proper dorade box should be.

Remove the old mainsheet winch base

Today, I began removing the mainsheet winch base on the port side of the cabintop. I will move the location of that winch aft and the winch base only interferes. I began sanding it down with a very aggressive belt sander, but my brother suggested using my Fein Multimaster with the flush cutting blade. Wow, does that thing cut. We had the base removed in a matter of minutes. I filled with thickened epoxy and will sand flush with the surrounding cabin. Next I over bored the screw holes when I will bolt the seahood to the cabin. The screws set the proper angle for screwing up into the seahood, which has already been overbored and filled with thickened epoxy, I poured thickened epoxy around the screws and when the mix kicked I backed out the screws, leaving the holes in the hardened glue. The holes will act as guides for my tap later--I will tap and attach the seahood with 1/4"x2" machine screws when everything is sanded and ready for paint.

 

By the way, as a comparison to the photo above showing the old dirty nonskid...I recently acquired a Festool Rotex 150 orbital sander and used it for the first time on the cabin doghouse nonskid. Even with the wrong abrasive paper for fiberglass, the tool removed the nonskid and old Awlgrip paint in a matter of minutes down to a finish the equivalent of 400 grit wet sanding.

Painting the Companionway Hatch

Today I sprayed the companionway sliding hatch. The temperature was only in the mid 60's, but System Three paint seems to thrive in cold weather: it flowed very well. The base coats of Orcas White dried in about 20 minutes. It was thinned 25 percent with water. Previously I had sprayed the hatch with System Three WR-155 epoxy primer, and sanded lightly with 220 wet or dry.

After an hour of drying, I mixed 4 ounces of Gloss Clear crosslinked and sprayed it over the base coat. Again, the clear flowed very well and dried to the touch in an hour. Once the crosslinked coats have a week to dry and harden completely I will mount the sliding hatch and the seahood over it and begin building the dodger coaming down along each side of the doghouse.

Handrails

While waiting for the companionway hatch to dry, I positioned and drill holes in the dog house for the stainless handrails. I then over bored each hole with a 3/4" spade bit thru the top layer of glass and the balsa core, but not cutting thru the bottom layer of fiberglass. Then I used a small screwdriver to dig balsa out wider than the bored hole.

Taping over the inside of the hole prevents any drips. The adhesive on the tape acts as a mold release and the glue will not stick to it.

Here are some of the bored holes.

Here they are filled and ready for first sanding. once sanded completely smooth I will redrill the 1/4" holes to accept the threaded studs of the handrails.

Here a handrail is temporarily mounted.

The forward handrail stud.

 

Building a Dodger Splash Coaming

The idea of the coaming is to provide a lip to screw snaps into to attach the bottom edge of a dodger and offer more protection from any spray or seas. The coaming will extend the aft edge of the seahood down each side of the cabintop to act as an attachment point for the dodger. Now that I have the seahood finished and the companionway hatch painted, they can be installed and accurate measurements taken for the coaming.

I began by marking the outline on the cabin: each side extends to port and starboard, then takes an accurate angle aft to intersect with the cabinsides aft of the rear portlight and in line with the forward cockpit coaming attachment.  I used basswood and roughed out the shape on my trusty 12" band saw. It took three attempts before I finally got what I wanted. The basswood will be encapsulated in epoxy and i will add a layer or two of cloth to protect it.

Here you can see I have marked out on the cabintop the outline of the coaming.

 

 

The port coaming roughed and positioned for fit.

 

 

The starboard coaming. I've started to shape it with a rasp.

 

 

Here I am starting to shape the diagonal side rail. It has about as many angles as you can imagine. I take off the curves with a compass and use my band saw to do the cutting.

 

Here is the same diagonal, cut to fit, temporarily screwed down and set in thickened epoxy. Here's the starboard side looking forward. When the epoxy is tack free, I'll add a layer of epoxy in microballons to begin fairing it.

Here is the starboard coaming faired and ready for paint.

 

Here is the port dodger coaming roughly shaped and bedded in thickened epoxy.

 

Another angle for the port coaming.

 

 

Today I added the first of two layers of 6oz fiberglass to the coamings.When it hardened I trimmed off the scrap with a sharp knife, sanded the weave down smooth and added a second layer of cloth. I will sand that smooth and then paint the coamings with System Three epoxy primer. Then, all that is left is to drill the holes for the lines that will feed the rope clutches and the two winches.

Here are the coamings primed with the first coat of System Three WR-155 water-based epoxy primer.

 

 

Here I have bored the holes for the lines that run aft to sheet stoppers and the port winch: the windward traveller car haul, the outhaul and the mainsheet. I will add fairleads to the holes glued in thickened epoxy, then mount the sheet stoppers and the winch, a Lewmar two-speed #16.

 

Installing a Traveller Riser

Today I took off the measurements needed to order and have built stainless steel risers to support the midboom traveller. I am ordering these from Garhauer Marine. They build them to your custom specifications and Garhauer does beautiful work at a very reasonable price. Here are the measurements:

This is what the risers look like from the Garhauer catalog:

I ordered the traveller risers from Garhauer at the Strictly Sail Miami boat show yesterday. They should be here in a week.

The risers arrived this afternoon and I thought I would share them with you. These are the smaller of two models, designated  UR1. They are extremely beefy. They are custom made to my measurements, from a full 1/4" stainless plate, with perfect welds and polished like chrome. They regularly cost $170.00 for the pair in the Garhauer catalog. I got them for $150.00 including shipping at the Miami Strictly Sail boat show. It took a little more than a month to get them.

Each riser has a very classy Garhauer logo on it. You can judge the polished stainless by the reflection here.

 

Here is the basic shape from the side view. The base pivots to account for the curve of the cabintop. The horizontal plate is drilled for attaching the traveller. You can use Garhauer's traveller if you want to buy their traveller blocks. In my case, I already have a Harken Midrange traveller system so I will attach it to these risers.

Here's the underside of the unit. As perfectly finished in brushed stainless as the outside is polished. These are just gorgeous units. the workmanship in Garhauer's products is first rate and their prices are really amazing.

 

 

Here is a close up of on of the welds on the underside where they don't show. I expected less than perfect welds here--it doesn't matter right? Wrong. The welds are damn near perfect, as much as they are on the outside.

Next, I mocked up the traveller clamped to the risers to get an idea as to how close my measurements were. I took a straight piece of trim and clamped it to both risers. Then adjusted each riser so it was 7 inches in from the edge of the cabinside.

The results are exactly what I wanted. The bottom of the riser will be about 1/3" above the seahood.

 

Here is the port side riser close to its final position.

 

Here is the starboard side riser in position.

Since the cabintop is curved and the attachment base of the risers is flat I felt I needed a flat bearing surface. A midboom traveller must handle enormous forces: just think of a jibe in heavy weather and you begin to understand the strains it must absorb. I also believe midboom traveller risers are a common source of leaks into the cored cabintop--they usually are not mounted correctly and become a major source of leaks. So these risers will be mounted in a way that leaks are impossible. The outer cabin surface and the inside cabin surface will be flat so that the bearing surface of the mount and its associated backing plate will have a full flat surface to bear against. Furthermore, the bolt holes for the two riser brackets will be tapped to prevent any movement and any egress of water.

The outside riser base and the backing plate on the inside will be sandwiched between:

  • The flat exterior pad,

  • The cabintop layers,

  • The flat plywood pad, and

  • The Formica overhead panel.

For the flat exterior pads, I cut some 1/4" fiberglass stock I have from McMaster Carr to the shape of the backing plate, faired the edges, and mounted it to the cabintop in thickened epoxy.

On the inside of the cabin I fashioned two 1/4" pieces of plywood and mounted them in thickened epoxy. I did not tighten down the temporary attachment screws so the pads would assume the curve of the cabintop; I purposely left them flat. They will act as a spacer for the Formica overhead cabin panels to lie against so that torque of the nuts on the backing plate do not stress or crack the Formica.

Then I overbored the mounting holes for the riser brackets and filled them with thickened epoxy. The mounting brackets for the Garhauer risers are drilled for 1/4" flathead bolts. Probably that is more than sufficient, but I drilled out the holes to the next size, 5/16". The flatheads will stand a little proud but I like the extra beef of the significantly larger bolts.

I ordered the new Harken traveller bar and received it today. It is very stout, uses a continuous running bolt head slot on the underside and comes with 8 stainless steel bolt head plates to fit into the slot. I ordered all stainless 316 hardware to attach the risers to the traveller. I used acorn nuts to create a finished look to the underside and used blue Lok-Tite to keep everything tight.  In order to prevent any corrosion between the stainless risers and stainless mounting bolts and the aluminum traveller, I coated the bolt heads and the head plates that ride in the slot liberally with LanoCote and also the underside of the traveller that touches the risers.

Here is the port riser positioned on the mounting pad.

 

To ensure I am drilling the mounting holes for the riser brackets square to the mounting pads, I use a portable drill press jig I bought at Home Depot. I mark the first hole, drill it, tap it, then mount the bracket and use it as the template for the second hole. Remove the bracket, drill and tap the second hole, remount the bracket for the third hole, etc.

Here, all the holes are taped and ready for the bracket.

 

Here is the bracket mounted in place with the 5/16 x 2-1/3 inch machine screws.

 

You can see the screws protruding here. When the cabin is finished there will be a sheet of Formica over the plywood base.

 

Everything lined up very nicely. Here the backing plate from Garhauer is on just for fit and the cap nuts are tightened down.

 

 

Installing the new Man Ship Forward Hatch

My Hatch Arrives (July 22, 2005)

Here are some pics of the custom-made trapezoid Bristol 29 hatch. If you are like me and dreamed of a weather proof, sea-proof hatch, this is it folks. I can not begin to say enough good things about Mariner's Hardware and Man Ship. take a look:

It is difficult to photograph, but this is the hatch right side up, still wearing the UV protective film over the acrylic light.

 

You can see the quality of the stainless (316), the welds and the polishing in this shot. Here is one of the hinges with my Canon S-50 perfectly reflected. The stainless looks like high quality chrome, only smoother and more reflective.

Here is the underside of the hatch. Notice the caulking detent built in to the inner edge of the trim, the handles and the general high quality of the workmanship.

The Man Ship logo on the underside of the acrylic light. CE indicates a similar European Union standard of quality to ISO9000.

 

Installing the Forward Hatch (October 30, 2005)

Today I prepared the raised forward hatch combing to received the new hatch. The Bristol's combing is curved and uses a curved fiberglass hatch that matches the crown of the cabin top. The crown needed to be taken out of the combing in order to fit the new hatch. I could have used a variety of tools--a grinder was suggested by my brother and a Sawsall comes readily to mind, but I wound up using my trusty belt sander. It took about and hour and was very controllable. I kept a level handy to act as a straight edge. I will have to fill the weather stripping groove and bull nose the outboard edges of the combing, but it will work just fine for the new hatch. Stay tuned for the hatch installation next weekend.

November 12, 2005

Today I continued modifying the forward hatch combing to receive the new hatch. After leveling it as best I could with the belt sander, I dry fitted the hatch and marked low spots. I puttied up the edges where I marked with thickened epoxy and sanded again. Then I took the belt sander to the sharp corners, rounding them and bullnosing the exterior edge of the combing. The sander cut through into some voids in the glass, which I later filled and faired with epoxy. Here is the hatch dry fitted. The combings are close to finished. They will received a coat of System Three epoxy primer. Then I will screw down the hatch but not bed it yet, as I want to remove it and the new ports when I paint the deck and cabin trunk.

I also ground flat the famous Bristol hatch lips where the yard bonded the cabin liner to the openings in the deck and cabin. It's always sort of an ugly, rough way to finish the joints and is common to most Bristol's. Since I am going to finish the inside of the hatch opening with cherry trim, it needs to be flat (like it should have been 40 years ago).

 

 

Mounting Hardware on the Cabin and Deck

this is the beginning of a description of mounting hardware on the cabin and deck. The first being a

1. Spinlock turning block

Here you can see that I have overbored for a new Spinlock turning block that will accept the mainsheet and the outhaul and route them back to the port side cabin winch. I cannot stress the importance of overborning a cored cabin top or deck. It is so easy there is no reason not to do it.  The Spinlock takes a 1/4" bolt, so I overbored with a 5/8" hole. I will redrill it through now solid epoxy and it will never be stressed, or leak water into the balsa core. It is 50 year solution and one that you should always do.

Here's how to keep water out of your coring:

Fill with thickened epoxy.

 

Drill for the size fastener, in this case 1/4" holes.

 

Use a chamfered bore, like this to create a bevel edge to the hole.

 

Like this. The bevel will hold a nice bead of caulking that won't be squeezed out when you tighten the fastener.

 

Holes ready for the fasteners..

 

Here's the turning block mounted temporarily.

 

The bolts go through, washers and nuts with Lok-Tite added and the bolts cut off flush with the bottom of the nut. The whole assembly is less than 1/4" thick so it doesn't interfere with my overhead panels. Do this with every fastener thru your cabin and deck and you will never never have a problem with core saturation.

2. Cabintop Lewmar Winches

I am mounting a Spinlock triple clutch and a Lewmar #16 two speed winch on the port cabintop. The winch serves the mainsheet, the outhaul and the portside traveller car haul. Here you can see I have overbored the mounting holes for the rope clutches and the winch base. These will be filled and re-drilled like the description above. The winch will be tilted aft 10 degrees and I will make a tilted base out of thickened epoxy for it. I will install a single clutch and a Lewmar #7 on the starboard to handle the starboard side traveller car haul.

Here is the portside holes filled with the first filling and sanded smooth.

 

Here is the starboard side with the first filling.

 

So I want to tilt the port winch about 10 degrees to prevent overrides. If you read the West System manual, the instructions are very detailed: it's easy and quick to do. The most important step is to cover your winch base with some kind of release agent--I use kitchen plastic wrap. The use a couple of scrapes of wood to raise the forward edge, or the edge you wish to tilt. Mark everything with a pencil so you can align it later--also an important step.

I mixed up a 2 or 3 squirt mix of epoxy and 405 filleting adhesive filler to a paste where the peaks would not fall off. Slop that into the middle of where the base will be.

The trick here is to position the winch correctly. The pencil marks are crucial.  make sure you put enough of a blob down that it fills under the winch base entirely. Then when everything is positioned just so, take a stirring stick or your finger and scrap up the excess that spluged out.

Here you see the edges filleted nicely, and the base ready to kickoff and harden. I took a piece of tape from the companionway side to the top of the winch just to secure it so it doesn't shift down the top of the cabin.

Here is a close up of the sticks and the epoxy fillet. I will clean everything up and sand the excess epoxy smooth. I will fair out the fillet to blend it more into the cabin top also.


 

.Here I am building the epoxy base for the starboard winch that will control the starboard traveller car haul. The winch is a Lewmar single speed #7.

You can see the angle of the base here. I trimmed off the exposed sticks with a chisel.


I have added the first application of epoxy thickened in microballs to build a nice fillet around the base.


And here you can see I have drilled the mounting holes and cut a water drain groove. The base is ready to paint.

 

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